What Does A Woman REALLY Want?

By

Vince Del Monte, WBFF Pro Fitness Model, Certified Fitness Trainer
and Nutritionist and author of No Nonsense Muscle
Building.

As a man, can you imagine what it could be like to actually know what a woman wants in terms of physical attraction?

I’ll admit it first, and I bet you can relate that it’s next to impossible to figure out what kind of a physique woman are REALLY attracted too.

Do I sound frustrated?ย  Yep.

I’ve dated girls, when I was 170 pounds 5% body fat and I’ve dated girls when I was 205 pounds 5% body fat and both groups of girls said, “I was perfect!”

Were they afraid to hurt my feeling?

Which group of girls were fudging the truth?

I will never TRULY know but I think I’m pretty darn close to knowing…

Just like you, I want the right look that every one of my buddies respects and that every woman finds attractive, especially my girlfriend ๐Ÿ™‚

We all KNOW it exists but the question remains:

How Much Muscle Do You Need To Be
More Appealing Than Others?

To date, I have not figured out the exact number but I’m starting to see that “bigger” is not definitely better.

I do know that staying skinny is not the answer either, no girl wants to be with a guy who can’t protect her or is skinner than she is…

In fact, a recent Harvard study down in 2000 revealed that most men overestimate the amount of muscle that they think is necessary to peak attraction in a woman by an jaw dropping 30 pounds!

What Does That Mean To You?exile-swede1

Consider this good news!

The widespread “bigger is better” mantra spread in bodybuilding magazines is false information.ย  Don’t get the wrong impression here but check this out…

FACT: Studies show that Playgirl models
display MORE muscle mass and lower body
fat levels than in years past!

So don’t use this post as an excuse for slacking at the gym or becoming content.

You will drive girls more crazy or get more action from your significant other by having a top-notch physique.

Make NO mistake about that.

Without looking at you I’m guessing you could start hooking up with the hottest girl (assuming you’re not a douche bag) by adding at least 20-30 pounds of muscle mass to your current frame.

If you answer YES to at least one of these question below then I’m confident in saying you should shoot for an extra 20-30 pounds of muscle.

  • Are you really satisfied with being a total “average Joe”?
  • Are you embarrassed of taking off your shirt in public?
  • Are you intimidated by men who are in better shape than you?
  • Would an attractive woman be turned on by your body, or just laugh?
  • Are you the type of “man” who just “dreams” about achieving something great?

If you answered “yes” then you’re not alone and it’s not too late.

How Did I Arrive At The Number?

Simple.ย  As soon as I added my first 21.5 pounds of muscle in the first 30 days, that’s when I startedgetting dates.

I should clarify – hot dates – for the first time in my life!

That is YOUR goal: 20-30 pounds of rock-hard mass in the next 4-6 months.ย  That will require you to gain at least 5 pounds of muscle a month which I am prepared to teach you in my book.

Since I wrote, No Nonsense Muscle Building, there is no need to dream of a muscular body that turns heads…today is the time to make it happen.

There is no need to be skeptical, my system will work better than any creatine or muscle-gain product you could try instead (for the same price).

My book is better than anything short of “the juice.”

Imagine how good you will feel about yourself when you finally have the confidence to approach any woman you spot in your class, on a night out, in the grocery store or in the gym (although I don’t recommend approaching girls in the gym).

And just think… you could be dating the girl of your dreams in the next 30 days (or re-energizing your current relationship)!

Within the first 30 days of using No Nonsense Muscle Building, you’re embarrassingly small body parts will be replaced with rock-solid muscle making your body look like an Armour suit.

I can promise that you will no longer feel embarrassed to take your shirt off in public. Imagine the sense of pride you will have as everyone at the local swimming pool turns to look as you take off your shirt, revealing your new, ripped, muscular physique.

Of course, if you’re happy with a weak, baby-soft body, go ahead and don’t do anything now and continue attracting average looking woman that you’ll never really be happy with.

See you at the beach ๐Ÿ™‚

Vince Del Monte,

P.S. What would be SUPER awesome is if all the ladies could speak up!ย  If you’re a male, get your girlfriend or wife to post her comments below.ย  What do you ladies like?ย  How much muscle?ย  Favorite body parts?ย  Lets hear from you ๐Ÿ™‚

P.P.S. Check out this recent success story…

“For the lousy $100 that I gave you in exchange for your program,
I have received so much! I will even compete in the Cypriot Fitness
Nationals at the end of this year.

I also have the guts to offer my own fitness advice to all my friends
since I finally have the body to back it all up. I am now the man at
the gym and I am being CHASED BY ALL THE GALS.

Your program will change the life of everyone that purchases it.”

Marios Prodromou
Larnaca, Cyprus

 

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171 thoughts on “What Does A Woman REALLY Want?

  1. I’m a lady who started getting hit on like I’m on fire like 4 months after I followed Flavia del Monte’s program. Anyway, I like bodybuilding men as long as they are not overly high-maintenance and are not stupid. Working out and looking like he works out are a necessity. Eating junks on a regular basis, having a pot belly, being too cocky, too stupid, bad attitude, not having enough confidence to handle fit and smart girls, etc are deal breakers no matter how big they are. Size alone doesn’t matter. Personality makes a difference because I can definitely inspire men to change their lifestyle habits and guide them but they have to have the confidence in themselves to do it and to not think that listening to a girl will emasculate them. It’s also important that the guy is down to earth and (even more so) up for fun activities like snowboarding, hiking, climbing and do them well because he’s fit rather than just being big and looking like a Greek god. If he only looks good I might as well just buy myself a portrait to look at.

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  2. I Got some intersting info here. I think that when a greater number considered it that way, theyโ€™d have got a better time obtain the hang ofing the situation.

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  3. I can only speak for myself. But I went from 170 lbs to 195 and really packed on the muscle. I was already rock hard and fit at 170 but I wanted to be big. My wife hated the new body and I noticed friends didn’t behave the same way around me. No one would say anything but I could tell. So I changed my work out and started slimming back down. I weigh in at 181 now but I look much different and my wife is much happier. So more is not better when comes to muscle mass. Unless your competing in top body building events, then a lean hard body is what turns heads.

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  4. Really funny to read all this stuff. Sure a nice looking body is of course much better than average one. But really do you guys think that girls (I mean intelligent ones, because why would you like to be with a stupid one in the first place?) will jump on you just because you have muscles ? Wrong! They are a good addition, sure, it’s great to have the full package, but most important is your personality, what you represent, what kind of person you are, what are your goals and dreams. You see times changed, back then having big muscles was very important to protect your family, kill a huge animal etc, now we don’t go hunting any more, and most of our skills to provide a family a good life are in our brains. So really this is pure nonsense when you say that if you gain few pounds of muscle your date rates will increase – unless you needed to feel more confident with yourself, and that leaded to your different behavior and thus to more dates, but it’s not the muscles in the first place that attracted the girl in that case.

    BTW, I’m not skinny nor fat, I’m quite above the average guy. But i guess I have something else cool that helped me to date girls no matter how I looked like.

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    • i am an 18 year old with a genius level I.Q. (144). I’m “the funniest boy in school”, (voted by my peers) I am literally fascinating, and i am no longer ashamed to admit that i never got ANY pussy until i got down to about 175-10% body fat. IDK what you’re talking about, but from personal experience….. all they care about is abs. ๐Ÿ™

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  5. Well i dont like spending money on a lot of products…..i liked reading this article….right now im training off the marine corp standards….and when i saw the get ur DVD set free i tried but everytime i try i cant get the email or the send button u covered it up….on all pages ๐Ÿ˜› id like to try it but i dont like to spend a lot of money cuz i dont make a lot

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  6. Yeh but some people are like me have genetically skinny legs. I worked my legs like crazy when I was younger. Got away from weights later and I have had a bunch of leg and hip injuries ever since. Having sugury just sucks the muscle right out of your legs. I can't really go heavy on legs anymore and have to be very carefull with reinjuring a knees or hip. It sucks but I like keeping my upperbody in the best shape that I can. So yes , I have the musclur upper torso but skinny legs thing going. Not that I want it to be that way. Does had right me off with most women? I guess i could just loose all my upper body muscle to even out but no way do I think I should do that.

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  7. This is a old post but I want to comment. First thing I notice about a man is his smile and eyes. You can tell a lot about those two things .. if he is genuine, kind, etc. That’s what matters to me the most. The inward stuff. I’ve dated tons of guys with hot bodies but turn out to be low-life, playa’s who have no clue how to treat a lady. That is a HUGE turn-off.
    BUT, if I could pick a body part I’d have to say I really like wide shoulders, nicely muscled biceps and rock hard forearms!! That’s just hot!

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  8. BULGY VEINS? you mean VERICOSE veins? rub castor oil on them daily and in about 3 months they be goone!

    With girls I’d say that lil divot on the back around the hips! Thats makes a big difference …who wants to see that jiggle from behind? lol

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  9. I don’t want to get a lot of muscle just to have all the girls flock around me. I’m a country teen and you need to be nice and fit(at least it helps a hell of a lot)to do things around here. Also, i don’t know if any of you think this, but to be able to have the joy of being picked first on backyard football games by the team captain. It would be so awesome for the picker to choose me for his first pick. Now that’s why i want some muscle, i’m tired of being the “outsider” when i’m around friends, i WANT to be noticed. ๐Ÿ™‚ Also, on those football games, i’m the LAST one picked. I’m getting pissed of that happening. >:( Vince, once this broken collar bone of mine heals i’m going to tackle your program asap!!!!!

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  10. @Scottie

    Not necessarily, girls don’t like guys with 20-30 pounds of blubber on them. They’d much rather go with a more fit guy with good hmor, respects her, and is smart from all the above. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  11. @Scottie – You’re on the right track, Scottie. The main key to attracting hot girls is confidence. But I think Vince also makes a point. Having muscles, especially for skinny guys like me, helps you look more attractive, boosting your confidence.

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  12. Hey Vince,
    I like your site and info. And of course you’re sooo sooo hot!! But you’ve heard that too much…

    About this post, guys, I think BALANCE is the key. No matter what type of body is. Every woman will agree with this. We all have different opinions and that’s ok but I don’t want a man that looks good at the front and then ask him to doesn’t turn around cause he lacks a nice back, hams and butt, calves, you know. What you don’t see you will not train that hard… right? Pay attention to the mirror in every unknown angle… Yeah, more than you’re used to… I’d look there…

    Personally, I visualize this in my fantasies: a man who looks great in jeans (you know, like a second skin..mmm!!) no shirt, firm & muscular torso, and.. TEACHING ME SOME MECHANICS!!!

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  13. TURN ONS: 6 PACK ABS, MUSCULAR ARMS, LEGS AND BUTT
    AND A HAIRLESS CHEST (NO HAIR ON CHEST!!)
    AND CLEAN SHAVEN OR LONG, SEXY MUSTACHE

    TURN OFFS: LARGE PECS, LARGE BACK & NECK, OVERLY MUSCULAR
    GO-TEES ARE A BIG TURN OFF!! THEY LOOK STUPID!

    HUGE IS NOT BETTER!!

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  14. Hey Vince,

    You said it right when you commented, “Stop LOOKING for the right person and start focusing on BECOMING the right person and youโ€™ll attract the right person.”

    It may take a while building/becoming the RIGHT PERSON but starting it NOW and not tomorrow is a BIG step to becoming the RIGHT YOU.

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  15. Hey Vince! Just want to say I love all your e-mails and the work you put into all that you do. Shows your very passionate about delivering the best possible results to your clientele. Nice work!
    I am a chick who works hard at taking very good care of herself. I have a degree in kinesiology and am a competitive figure skater. So in addition to wanting to look good I have to maintain a level of strength at the same time. Your training tips and Empowered Nutrition help keep me on track with all of that. Thank you.
    Now responding to your ‘what a woman wants’ post I must say that I agree with a lot of the other gals. I like to see a balance in the upper body and lower. Love strong, muscular legs in a guy. Love a solid upper body , but at the same time hate HUGE pecs. What can I say, if a guy s boobs are bigger than mine it is a total turn off. ๐Ÿ™‚ Of course some beauty is only skin deep so he’s gotta have a great attitude, a lot of brains (minus the arrogance), and have a kind, gentle, and loving personality.

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  16. Hey Vince,
    As a female, I think your estimate is money. Guys that look the best aren’t too big and have a low bmi. It probably isn’t that much different than what guys like for us women. A fit healthy look.

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  17. Most of my girlfriend agree that a greatpair of calves are their fave bodyparts… perhaps it’s because ALOT of men neglect their legs and focus to much on their upperbodies, so when we see a great pair of calves we get all soft in the knees and can’t stop oggeling them calves…

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  18. Very smart words. Become the “right” person and you will attract the “right” person! I’m gonna focus on that even more now…

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  19. Hi! I’m a guy.. lyk many others… i have read these comments frm top to bottom..
    Here’s my submisssion: frm wot i’ve read , girls lyk a well proportioned body, lean and muscular and all that crap. And don’t like skinny legs…anyway to some extent its true. But it depends on the culture of the people…here’s wot i mean….

    Where i come from girls place so much emphasis on money such to an extent that if a cute guy is walkin’ down the street, and a monkey.. (i mean a MONKEY) comes in a sleek new ride the girl wiill most likely go for the monkey.. its all so demeaning that over here in Africa girls do not care what the guy looks lyk… as long as he has a ride….house..and of course…something between the legs…

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    • Is that the kind of girl you want to be with?

      I don’t care what culture you’re from, I refuse to believe their ARE quality girls looking beyond the surface of material possession.s

      I still recommend building a muscular body that YOU can be proud of YOURSELF. Be focusing on BEING the right person, you’ll attract the right person.

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  20. @Danielle – Agreed! Better fit and lean than too big or too lopsided!

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  21. Too much muscle is not attractive. Mr. Universe muscle is a good example of an unattractive, over muscled physique. Flabbyness is unattractive, too. I gues the most attractive male physique for me is one that is lean, well muscled, flexible, healthy and strong. In short, a physique that’s somewhere in the middle is what I find most attractive because the extremes imply either too much focus on muscle and not enough on all the other things in life that are worthwhile OR imoply not enough focus on mental, physical and emotional fitness. If we are the sum of our parts, the most attractive people are individuals who spend time on all aspects of their lives…Hmmmmm…did I get too deep here or what?!

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  22. Originally Posted By Jennifer
    Now a question for you guysรข๏ฟฝยฆat what point (if there is a point) do you find fit women unattractive and how big is too big?

    @Jennifer
    Jennifer to answer you, most men are not attracted to female bodybuilders, so once a womans muscle fibers start to become overly noticeable under her very thin skin, then she is exercising too much. Women naturally have a layer of fat, and more body fat than men…and this is naturally attractive. Men like smooth and soft looking women, not just because she feels great, but because it is part of our “domination” mindset, the need to feel more powerful.

    The buzz word these days seems to be “tone,” which could mean that a womans muscle tone is visible, or maybe it is not visible at all. Either way is desireable and a nuance. When women generally start to become less attractive to the vast majority of men is when they begin accumulating excess body fat. Basic attractiveness is essentially in direct proportion to the amount of excess body fat a woman has (in our modern time).

    Most men are not attracted to overweight women, and even when one does find a wonderful, charming, and delightful overweight woman…and chooses to have a committed relationship with her…there is generally always resentment in the back of that mans mind which can manifest through anger, disrespect, or by not behaving as kindly toward her over time. Because all men desire a beautiful woman, it is like a personal attack to their own self image if their woman doesn’t seem to care about this and respond in a way to stay fit or healthy.

    Men also tend to think that overweight women may have some kind of emotional or physical disability. This idea will also be nagging in the back of their mind if a young woman looks great but her mother is obese. It’s hard for men to understand why a woman doesn’t want the same things that he wants, and why she isn’t as interested in being physically fit as he is in her being fit. Men who commit to a woman feel betrayed emotionally when they tend to gain weight, which is typical of women, and this can foster a deep emotional resentment because he feels like his emotions are being neglected. Men typically don’t know how to express this (we’re bad with emotions) and know from experience and other horror stories that communicating with her on this matter is virtually impossible.

    So there is a lot of fear and anxiety that men can actually experience when it comes to their own emotions and the possibility of their woman becoming very out of shape. Hopefully you were ready to hear the truth, but you asked for it.

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  23. grt work Vince…

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  24. what is this “woman” you speak of? sounds quite intriguing! where can i find one.

    hehe anyhoo on a serious note i have a hell of a time making my legs grow. im 6’4 around 215. my legs are skinny, always have been. i feel like thats whats holding me back in my upper body… lack of leg muscle. very frustrating!

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    • You should try the Super Squats program. Give it a shot for 4 weeks.

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  25. i am an 18 year old male who started working out 3 years ago and have probably added about 10-15 pounds since i started sure i look and feel better but even before i worked out my girlfriend said she loved me and the way i look ๐Ÿ™‚ so i don’t think working out makes a difference maybe it will for other girls but if your girlfriend or wife is already with you it means she loves you for who you are

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  26. Great idea to get constructive feedback and tips Vince.
    My other half is always saying she would like me to add a few pounds but won’t actually quantify where. I’m gunning for muscle and bulk rather than a belly!
    Can’t wait to start on your program properly when I get back from a weekend in Amsterdam!

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  27. Who is that girl in the picture?

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    • Allison Stokke, a high school (maybe out of high school now) pole vault champion.

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  28. Anybody know who that beautiful girl is up there in the picture with the pole?

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  29. @Kristin

    Ladies- Im putting this out there for you, hope it helps. I don’t like skinny women and I don’t know any guy who really does. All those skinny chicks on TV, fashion magazines, etc….they are way too skinny. My wife is average build, maybe even a higher BF % than most -well- she considers herself alot overweight. Me, I consider her PERFECT! She is soft, beautiful, sexy, curvy, and everything I think a woman should be. I see and hear so many woman worry about their weight and trying to look like women on TV – its crazy. Example: Jennifer Aniston, cute, but too skinny. Guys like women who look like grown women -filled out -curves -anyway thats what I like. Its nice when a woman takes care of herself, is healthy, and proud of who she is and her body. Thats hot. My wife isn’t skinny but she takes great care of herself, she looks like an angel! Guys like woman who accept us for who we are and encourage us. My wife appreciates that I see the good in her and vice versa. Im a skinny guy, also trying to come back from a virus that damaged my nerves and wasted all my muscle -to Nothing – it could happen to anyone, anytime. Im glad Im married to a woman who loves me for me, encourages me, and inspires me to be a better man just because she loves me.

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  30. This post is very bad. I don’t care how fat you are,
    you can still get hot girls if you have a tight and
    solid game plan. Being fit and 20 to 30 pounds
    muscular is not a guarantee in getting hot girls.
    Most men don’t even know how to approach and
    open up to women even if they are muscular and
    fit.

    To answer the question of “How Much Muscle Do
    You Need To Be More Appealing To Hot Women?”,
    the answer is this: It does not matter! You could
    be thin, you could be fat or you could be fit but if
    you don’t take care of your Game Plan in attracting
    beautiful women you will never get those hot
    chicks that you are always dreaming of.

    I was once overweight by more than 70 pounds
    and I can still get hot women every weekend.
    Heck, I have even known some people who are
    fatter than I am and as ugly as my big fat ass
    but they have hot and beautiful women on their
    arms! And I have known of fit, 20 to 30 pounds
    muscular men who don’t even have a girlfriend
    because they don’t have any Game Plan. Those
    fit guys are just dating their right hand every
    weekend.

    The key thing is this: If you want to attract hot
    and beautiful women, you have to take care of
    your Inner and Outer Game Plan first. Being fit
    and muscular is just a tiny fraction of attracting
    hot girls. Only go to the gym, exercise and be
    fit for your health’s sake. If you go to the gym
    with the mindset that you will automatically
    attract hot women when you are fit, then you
    are in the wrong place. Be ready for a very
    big disappointment and you will only be dating
    your right hand everyweekend.

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    • It’s easier to work on your outer game than inner game. Working on your outer game first can give you the confidence you need to believe in yourself to start working on the next piece – your inner game.

      There are no cold set rules in attraction.

      My best advice (my Mom gave me is this). Stop LOOKING for the right person and start focusing on BECOMING the right person and you’ll attract the right person.

      Time spent “looking” is time spent away from becoming better.

      I don’t do ANYTHING for others… I do it for MYSELF first. Attracting attractive women is just a bonus, a by product, of a good body. But you have to look beyond just the physical muscle. An attractive body means more to me than just raw attraction. It tells me the person respects themselves, takes interest in health, has discipline and not afraid of working hard. Those are qualities that I admire. Them looking good, again, is just a by product.

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  31. Thanks Vince! That was motivating at least. I am getting married and Oct. and I need to put on at least fifteen pounds. I have to get busy!!!

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    • Do it bro! Your wife won’t be able to keep her hands off of you on the honeymoon. If I know anything about women, they LOVE to take pride in who their significant other, just like us guys love to show off our girl. Girls are JUST the same.

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  32. Hey guys,

    AS A WOMAN, I have to TOTALLY agree with what Vince is telling you guys. He is on the money. No its NOT JUST about how you look (humor, intelligence, and not being a bastardly prick is also very important) but looking hot sure helps your case. I wish I could get my BF to do this stuff.

    Theres definitly is such a thing as TOO BIG. Being huge makes us think you are either a) really really stupid or b) have a really small apendage.

    Vince knows what he is talking about. There will always be women who like big/skinny, but on the whole, we like the kind of body Vince will help you build. I know I do.

    Now Vince, how about a programme for us ladies? You gonna shed light on what men find attractive about us and how to achieve it? And I bet it isn’t being skeletal.

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  33. Vince, i dont know what skinny women like, i dont like skinny (thin women), i like THICK women, and i know thick women like huge guys! am i wrong???

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  34. Vince…this is a great post! I am predicting that this will be your most viewed article!

    What i am about to say is based on my life and talking with dozens of women relating to this exact subject.

    The average woman loves a lean, tone, proportional, muscular guy…not too bulky like the massive bodybuiders. And guys…you have to concentrate more on your lower body. Women love the glutes, quads and calves along with the broad shoulders, chest, biceps and, of course, the 6 or 8-pack abs!

    So, as you see, we all have a lot of work to do.

    Yet, as I was asking all of these women about the body they prefer, ALL OF THEM stated that a man needs to have more than just a body.

    You see….

    I used to play football and run track so I always have had an athletic muscular body. However, a couple of years ago, I got lazy, started eating junk food and blew up to almost 260 lbs. of useless blubber fat! I had a bad attitude about everything and I couldn’t get a date for the world! However, thanks to my dad, my former coach and Vince’s program, I am now 200 lbs, and have about 10% body fat. I still have a lot of work to do but guess what?

    I get more attention from the ladies than ever before! I’m on first base and heading to second before we even plan the second date!

    Why and how?

    It’s not only the body but you must have the confidence, personality and attitude ! Just like a lot of the female posters have stated here, women are looking for the total package!

    As I was sculpturing my new body, I was also improving my finance, attitude and my personality. Intelligent, financially stable, passionate, romantic, imaginative, adventurous, creative, hilarious, fun…these qualities are what women are looking for in a man and this why and I can get second dates and third dates and MORE! So guys, it takes more than just a muscular body.

    Now Vince…if you can start another post about what kind of woman men want…that would be great!

    However, I’ll throw in my 2 cents right now!

    I have 5 brothers and we all love women with tone, gorgeous bodies such as Megan Fox, Beyonce or Angelina Jolie. Oh yeah, baby!

    And a few qualities such as being secure, no drama, etc. would be very helpful!

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  35. vince good article. i can speak on my own behalf somewhat, im traing for a bodybuilding show in sept, im 46 yrs, old at 184lbs and at 9% b,f, rihgt now still a ways to go ,but alot of women i work around think i look much better jacked at what im now than before at 229 lbs, 27% b.f but most dudes think i look like a model wanna be, most of the women say they like the muscles just not any bigger than what at that the steroid bodybuilders look ugly.

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  36. Here’s a question for the ladies. Can a man be to cut? ie. Stallone in rambo or Bruce Lee. The were not at all big but they both had around 4% bf.

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  37. @robert hopkins -It might be harder at your age because you will have much less testosterone than 25 years ago. But it should still be possible. Are you using vinces program?

    Because if not, you should either buy it or make more of an emphasis on diet if you aren’t already. An easy way to find out your daily calorie intake is to find out what your maintenance intake is and add 300-500 calories to that number.

    Also make sure that you aren’t over training and you are following a progressive overload system in your training.

    This is a very basic guide in a nutshell. I would recommend investing in a good program to maximise results.

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  38. You are right on Vince, a guy should look like a guy, not a stick man!

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  39. I am frustrated with my progress i need help I am 46 yrs old could it be i am just too old to make any difference.

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  40. Matt Hughes Has the kind of build I want to acheive. Strong and Athletic at the same time. Vince has that kind of a build in a taller sorta way lol. Im not tall so I say Hughes. Just what I prefer. Not too big, not too small but definately strong and no one to trifle with.

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  41. It’s the total package, guys.

    Lean and muscular – I call it medium build with symmetry, dazzling smile, confidence – but not too much, personality, dressed to the occasion, (don’t wear a big ol’ football jersey to a club and expect a girl to take you seriously), kind eyes, and the ability to connect from across the room. In other words, eye contact is important. If you won’t let others make eye contact with you it’s a turn off – girls will think you’re full of yourself.

    Examples that come to mind are: Brad Pitt, Ladanian Tomlinson, Sylvester Stallone when he was in the Rocky series, Arnold Swartzenegger when he was in Terminator….

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  42. I used to work out a while back before i got skinny and have now started working out again. My girlfriend at the time always said she liked my BACK the most. Guess it depends on the girl.

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  43. Vince, I can answer this question from a womanโ€™s viewpoint: โ€œHow Much Muscle Do You Need To Be More Appealing To Women?โ€ I can tell you exactly what the right amount of muscle to attract the most women is: The exact number is YOUR EXACT NUMBER THAT MAKES YOU FEEL THE BEST ABOUT YOURSELF SO THAT YOU EXUDE THE MOST โ€œCONFIDENCE!โ€ Attraction comes from looks and vibes, so bigger isnโ€™t always better. A truly attractive male likes himself, values himself for being his own unique self, and is not hung up on being so compulsive about something that he is boring to be with or appears to be self-centered. Also a woman wants a man to have quality time to spend with her, so if you spend too much time at the gym, that will end up being a turn-off. One important point: To attract the largest amount of women DONโ€™T BE โ€œSO BUILTโ€ that a lot of terrific women feel inadequate or feel that you are out of their league. Women have issues too. We wonder what men want. So fellas, go for it and be the best that you want to be! And we will feel your confidence in yourself.

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  44. Some dude already asked this question on twitter on a massive scale. Here’s the video.

    adoniseffect.com/muscles-are-bad

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  45. women….lifes mystery…haha

    i’ve asked some of my female friends what they like, and they tend to vary also, but abs with V cut and arms are the main parts they say they like =)

    and the confidence thing…i definatly know that having a better body will make me more confident, hearing girls complement you on your improving body is a great boost to your self confidence =D

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  46. Great Idea Vince. Cant tell my girl though lol ๐Ÿ™‚

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  47. @Per – Yes training together is very rewarding and stimulating. It also builds confidence which is very important in a relationship.

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  48. i would suggest that the reason you got more dates with more muscle is because you had more confidence- there is nothing as sexy as confidence and brilliance, i have seen it make an average man grow more gorgeous right in front of my eyes. i have seen really insecure muscular men, and trust me, they have grown less attractive in front of my eyes with their words and actions…having said that, while a great mind and energy is first, a beautiful, muscular body on a man who values himself and takes care of himself is part of the first attraction, and yes, they are the ones I am checking out at the gym and inspire me to hit my workouts even harder with their beauty.

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  49. I think you could ask every woman in the world and get a similar but different answer. Every woman’s head is naturally going to be turned by a buff man (from athletic to professional body builder) because instinctually we still look for a protector thats the way we are wired. So it becomes a difference of personal preference and other factors like personality, attitude and lifestyle. Growing up a swimmer I have always had a preference towards the swimmer’s build and love the v-waist. While physique is a nice physical attribute to look at and hold, if the guy has that body just because he wants the attention they are typically less interesting to be around.

    While the guys feel in the dark about such things, I feel that women are just in the dark when it comes to their muscularity and attractiveness or even the invisible intimidation factor. Any thoughts?

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  50. I like cannon-ball shoulders, well defined arms and the class V physique. Mmmm mmmm good!

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  51. @Heather – my wife says that she always has liked the way I stay in shape, which means staying around 230 for me, with less than 10% bodyfat. I also try to keep good symmetry, which means working my upper body harder, since my legs are pretty much genetically good. I do run with her, and bike with her, which makes it more fun!

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  52. Hi there, I totally agree with Danielle. And any friends I have ever spoken to on the subject have all said the same thing.Professional body builder big is totally unattractive. A man with a nice bit of muscle, who’s fit and healthy looking is so much more appealing to women. @Danielle

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  53. For me I appreciate a man who is physically fit (abs, chest, arms & thighs). I find him very sexy. I do not care for the body builder type. That to me is just obsessive, a man does not need to look that muscular (veiny) It would be a little scary to be with a man that big you just might get crushed.

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  54. I definitely “ditto” what Danielle said (quoted below). Also, I think abs and arms top my list, but the key is athletic looking and lean ALL OVER, not necessarily big muscles at all.

    Originally Posted By DanielleIm a female trainer so Ill give my two cents.
    I see some guys in the gym that are a tad too big up top but nothing on the bottom, they have small legs, they are only obsessed with their arms and chests.

    I like guys that look like athletes, fit and muscular. Great body types are sprinters, basketballers etc not too big, just fit strong and healthy.

    Girls dont like big big guys! And when a guy is that big, it starts to make you think that they would prefer to work on their bodies than hang out with you!!

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  55. As a man I have always been intrigued by what type of body would attract the most females to a man. Someone already recommended to search for “The Golden Ratio”.

    I’d like for Vince to interview the guys that came up with a training system that is targeted towards men achieving the Golden Ratio. They call it “Adonis Index”. Search for “Adonis Index” and you’ll hit their website. I read their eBook and it is very fascinating how much research went into designing the system.

    Take care Vince,
    AC

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  56. Woo Hoo!, this is great news for us hardgianers out there that we don’t have to put an insane amount of muscle on to attract the ladies.

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  57. It’s nice to hear all of the women talking about how much they appreciate a ‘moderate’ amount of muscle size, a great personality, etc.. -I also know SOME women like that. -Now, I travel a lot for a living (Vince, I was in Hamilton recently…Great town) and I still want to say, that through my eyes, many women still freak out over, hook up with, etc. the typical steroid, macho, no personality, douche. -There is still a HUGE market for that. I’m not saying this to burst the ‘conversational bubble’ or anything, and lets face it, most of these women have the personality equivalent of a bag of hammers. The problem is I suppose, is you ‘moderate, cool, down-to earth women,’ don’t hang out in the usual places (rightfully so), I guess, you are either hard to find, or the defenses are up, either way I find it’s difficult to ‘break the ice’ when women in general are SO guarded. Even many of the so called independent, modern, tough-girls, seem scared as heck in social situations. I’m 6″, Moderate build (which you all rave about), smart, chiseled face, with salt and pepper hair, a decent personality, and so on. My friends are similar in looks/personality and they all have similar experiences in regard to meeting ‘normal-down-to-earth women’. -We just don’t see the girls breaking down doors, going insane, or simply lowering their guard over the ‘moderate physique’ guys -They always freak, and I mean freak, over the mean-looking, tough guy, steroid douche…I’m sure it’s just me and my friends, but just saying….

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  58. Well, what you stated about girls not wanting a guy that’s thinner, you’re absolutely right there. I, personally, want a boyfriend who looks like he can protect me, lift me up without a sweat and of course has a cute face. ๐Ÿ˜‰ I think many (if not all) feel the same. Most important bodypart? Well to me that’s the abs and the arms really. Those, to me, show that someone is in good shape. Broad shoulders aren’t really all that necessary for me. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  59. @rob
    Girl here – Rob – you said exactly what I was thinking.
    Just as an example – I think my husband has a fantastic body – well proportioned, plenty of muscle, but not too big, very strong…but when he’s acting insecure it’s a turn-off to me, when he’s confident and being kind and sure of himself – that’s when he is the most sexy.

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  60. @Jess – Gotta say… nice post!!! haha. That’s what I’ve always tried to put on my buddies’s mind but…. most of men, without including me of course, think that being huge will be more attractive but the bad news is… only other guys seem to be attracted to huge man bodies.

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  61. You know what… actually bigger is not precisely better. Why don’t you guys read something about “The Golden Ratio” also known as golden mean. Google it! you’ll be really surprised after reading this.

    This is the answer to all our efforts on working out and that’s the answer to how much muscle you have to build.

    Just to forward a little bit on it… the golden ratio applied to man can be get by dividing the measure of the widest circumference to your shoulders into the waist measure.

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  62. @Flavia

    Yes, that is my hope and main motivation acctually (picturing how hot my girlfriend will look like when she sees my progress and jumps on Vinces program too ;O) )

    (Concerning getting hot and fit together as a couple)

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  63. So from the posts I’ve read, it seems the ladies like the toned muscular look. AKA Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman. So from walking around the beach it looks like guys need to do one of 2 things. 1. This is a majority of men, is lose weight fat to get to that toned look. 2. Put on muscle to get that leaned toned look.

    Vince I believe in one of your posts a couple months ago, you said it was very hard to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time (I believed you compared it to dating Eva and Angelina). So guys have to take a hard look in the mirror and determine what will make them look better, less fat or more muscle.

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  64. Being single since 1999, the two main things I looked for in a man is a job & teeth – Don’t laugh, it’s sad, but true…
    The confidence that goes with being in shape/toned or even ripped (like I’m meet any of those guys) is what is HOT!
    The physical appearance might get you noticed, but the personality will get you the date!
    So 32-40 single in shape men move to my town, please….Don’t forget the job & teeth. lol – Sharon Branson-MO

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  65. I agree with most of the other ladies that more is not necessarily better. The mass monster look is not a turn on for me, it’s just too much. My eye is always drawn toward a man’s arms and shoulders first, but of course, it looks best when guy works his whole body equally and is proportionate. Also, if you’re pleased with how you look and project confidence (not as in being full of yourself,-major turn-off), and you don’t have to look like a male model either, we women find that very attractive ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  66. With the summer practically over..now would be the time to put on some muscle…count me in!

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  67. I think it is all about being lean when it comes to physically attracting women. I am 6 foot about 195 lbs with fairly low body fat. I get looks from women but friends of mine who are more lean always seem to get more. Even the ones that are 5 foot 6 and 135 lbs!!!! All the girls seem to be obsessed with their abs even though mine are for sure above average.

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  68. Vince,

    My wife has chimed in on this. She’s been struggling on tWeight Watchers ( She’s paraplegic and exercise is a challenging) for years with little results and for some reason will not try something else. ANYWAY, her opinion is I shouldn’t be thinner than her and she doesn’t like the “bodybuilder” look.
    BUT when I showed her a picture of you (Vince) she said Oh yeah that would be fine ๐Ÿ™‚
    I guess you’ve found her number ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thanks for your awesome info
    Mark

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  69. It is interesting to read all of the comments and the variety of opinions. A recent study, quoted on another site, was that the combination of replies really came down to a good muscular/athletic possterior chain with emphasis on a well developed back. That makes some sense since a lot of the comments on this post tend to focus on glutes and legs. Also a well developed back makes for good posture because it pulls the shoulders back where they belong instead of rounded from being a bench press specialist. I think one of the examples that most of the younger readers, I’m showing my age, don’t know is Frank Zane. He still looks great at his age. If you compare Frank to Vince you can get the architype model.

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  70. Abs, chest and butt. If those are in place, then a woman’s eyes may never reach the calves before she makes an ‘I’m in’ decision. The secret formula is in the proportions. Too many men place far too much emphasis on the chest. Every women loves a beautiful chest, but if it overpowers the rest of the body, it becomes more unattractive as a package.

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  71. I’m a lady, so I’ll offer my input:

    I like a guy who cares about his body, but not to a fault. If he becomes too into the way he looks then I worry he wouldn’t be able to care for another person because he’d be too wrapped up in himself. I like a guy to be toned and defined and look strong without being “scarily muscular.” It’s always a good thing for him to take off his shirt and be confident. In a way it almost doesn’t matter exactly how much muscle you have as long as you’re confident and happy with the way you look. If you’re not happy or confident… then make the steps to become so. Confidence (not cockiness) is one of the sexiest things to a girl. Now pair that with a fit body and you’ve got us! haha. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  72. Women are attracted to men who are considered and kind, can talk and not just show the muscles…….. Men need not have weightlifter-s huge muscles,
    but muscular man is better than fatty, lazy looking man. If a man has no other
    interest than his own body and fitness club, it would be too boring to a woman.
    so medium is the best…….. and remember, intelligence and humor do count too…..

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  73. Guys, it’s not about what we want. Ask yourself what you want.

    What do you like about the way you look? Focus on that and build areas of your body that please you. When you like what you see in the mirror and you feel confident and pleased in that then you will naturally attract a woman who will find your confidence truly irressistable.

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  74. i think a lot of guys r waaay 2 big and it just looks stupid!i think no girls like a big belly and a dobble chin but an athletic body(swimmer-bodies r perfect)is nice.i personally dont like bodybuilders,its just 2 much..if ur dating one, and u dont have a perfect body,it just makes u feel bad about urself.
    but i must say i admire ppl they go 2 the gym 5-6 times a week,that is real willpower,and i wish i had more of that!
    heidi

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  75. A woman’s perspective on this.
    When it comes to physique, most of us ladies like a man that has a natural athletic build. I personally love the bodies of male gymnists. When you get too big, it doesn’t look naturally and is a turn off.
    Adding some muscle is going to help you get attention, just don’t over do it. But, above all is the way you treat a woman. Your kindness and respect is tops!!!

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  76. I don’t care if the man is tall or short; if his shoulders are broad, abs are tight, arms & legs have nice definition and musculature and he is not grotesquely huge everywhere (as in bodybuilders) but balanced from head to toe, then I’m swooning! Definitely 20-30lbs of muscle packed onto any man’s frame does not hurt! Add a great sense of humor, nice personality, and he can pretty much write his own ticket with me….

    That answer your question, Vince?

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  77. Yeah I totally agree on the comments saying that girls are not attracted to the bulky bodybuilder type. I feel the ladies are more into the lean, ripped look.

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  78. @Puggy – I like medium-muscled shoulders with a neck on them that can turn sometimes, noticing life as it is happening in their space–not just emoting over me. I like to see what he normally pays attention to.

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  79. My bet is that most women are not into bber types, but def are attracted to lean, tight muscle, and some abs, even if not a full 6 or 8 pack…also good bis and calves, and tight pecs….but not the puffy bber look…am I right on that?

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  80. I am female, and like guys with a nice core, chest and shoulders ๐Ÿ™‚

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  81. As a girl, I can tell you that nothing turns the majority of us off faster than a guy who is too big… OR a guy who is disproportionate. Yeah, sure, you might have great arms, but if you’ve got chicken legs that makes me think you’re a pansy (because everyone knows working legs is HARD and you’ve taken the “easy way out” by only working the arms)!

    Adding 20-30 lbs of muscle is a fantastic way to get noticed! I saw a post much earlier about height/weight ranges — please, don’t take that seriously… I find that a lot of girls don’t care about numbers, it’s about the total package! Brian hit the nail on the head, quite frankly.

    For the record, I’m a butt and legs girl myself! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  82. No insecurity in the question this is just a question that I do not think will ever be answered since for every woman in the world there is a different answer. Just to illustrate the point go to the beach. You will find women with men in all shapes and sizes. You can see attractive women with men that are obese and on the other hand you can find attractive women with men that could be on the cover of a magazine. At the end of the day I think it is just a toss of the dice depending on the woman.

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  83. Excellent article, Vince. Like Walter, this is the first time I’ve read all the comments. You got to the heart of the question as far as honing in on the optimal muscle to shoot for. I’ve been wondering about this for a while. I concluded it’s something like the “Marine look.” That link above to Ryan Reynolds is a helpful example. This is kinda assumed in people’s comments, but cutting the fat down is a pretty key component, too.

    Reading all the comments from the women, there is obviously a pattern here. ๐Ÿ™‚ I have been training with Vince’s program for a few months, and its results are pretty much exactly what the ladies overwhelmingly said they prefer. The program is all about full body training to get an overall proportional and functional physique. So the comments are quite reassuring, especially when you keep hearing other guys talk about how all they care about is training their biseps and chests. They’ll be comparing how much they can bisep curl while I’m thinking, “Who cares? How much can you deadlift?” They should realize that lower body exercises like deadlifts and squats not only bring balance, but also they produce a hormone response that supports upper body development.

    One comment I would make is that we don’t always understand the details of what we find attractive. So I think the women’s comments above are insightful. There’s still a need to estimate how much muscle and fat is involved in their examples. A figure like those of Vince and Ryan Reynolds is not “too big,” but there’s 20-50 pounds of muscle involved, not to mention cutting down the fat to 10% or less. That takes serious effort and knowing what you’re doing. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I definitely recommend Vince’s program (another program I recommend for six packs is from Mike Geary, but if you’re looking for an overall muscle building solution, then Vince is the way to go).

    Seriously, who is the young lady at the top of the post? It took a moment to start reading. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Vivek

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  84. In my opinion women want a man who looks andis powerful, not justbody and mind but mentally and attitude as well. They don’t want a guy to look like a bloated cartoon character from a 1 issue run comic book. They want a man that looks like a Greek god. Basically they are looking for a build somewhere between steve reeves and John grimek. They are different builds but the same. Different because steve was lean and proportinate. John was also proporntiate but also had a rwa power look as well. Men should strive for something in between these two builds and the women will flock to you. Of course this is all done naturally. Thanks again Vince for everything you do.

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  85. Unfortunately, physical attraction is only part of the equation. You can have the most appealing physical appearance there is but if there’s no personality, morals, kindness, etc. then I can’t even see what you really look like. As long as they believe in keeping fit and taking care of themselves, I don’t need perfection. I do have to say, for the sake of this blog, however, that I prefer someone with muscles that are proportionate to their overall body size. I don’t like so much muscle that it’s uncomfortable to put my head on his chest…..

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  86. Ok. This might be a long post, but there is a deep seated psychological reason for why we like what we like.

    I’ve simplified it greatly, and used a lot of metaphore, but it all goes back to when we were living in caves and running down antelope for our meals.

    The biggest universal turn-on is health and vitality. When we look at a member of the opposite sex our subconscious is analysing whether they can have our babies and if they will survive – even though your conscious mind is thinking nothing of the sort.

    If a girl looks young, healthy and vibrant then a guy’s sub-conscious translates that into fertility. She is more likely to conceive, those offspring are more likely to survive and our genes and more likely to pass to the next generation. That is a genetic imperative passed on through millions or years of evolution – it’s the reason why we are all here.

    The man’s imperative to pass on his genes is part of the reason that he wants to hump anything in a skirt… but that’s a different subject entirely.

    By the same token, if a man looks healthy and fit then a woman will subconsciously believe him to be more fertile, and his offspring will be fit and more likely to survive. He will also be more capable of providing for those offspring. When a girl looks at a guy with skinny legs she will consciously be thinking he is unnattractive – but subconciously she will be thinking that he’ll never catch an antelope with legs like that!! By the same token if a girl looks at a guy whose massive, she may just find him unnattractive but subconsciously she’s thinking that he’ll eat all the antelope before she and the kids get a shot.

    Women like intelligent men because it will mean their children will be more likely to be intelligent, just as women like drive and ambition – their children will inherit that edge and be more likely to succeed and pass on their genetic material.

    There are cultural factors which conflict with this, for example in some African cultures being fat is associated with wealth and prosperity, and women of that culture may find that attractive. Just as in western culture old but rich guys are often unusually attractive to some women.

    But always there is that primitive urge to seek out what the subconscious perceives as good genetic material. Being fit, healthy and well proportioned is the best embodiment of that. Looking unnatural in any way is the antithesis of what our subconscious wants. Hence women rarely go for the over-the-top body builder look or any other extreme for that matter.

    Phew! Hope that made sense.

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  87. i didn’t workout for two months <<>>>>>>>>>

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  88. Hi! I’m female.

    For me, the favorite body part is a well proportioned one… meaning I like the total picture, but I appreciate proportions. Also, a man who appears too big to me is a turn off… mostly becasue the message it sends is that he’s vain and too into himself. I actually appreciate the hard body that’s not too bulky… so a little fat is ok, but huge muscles are actually a turn off. Also, the well-proportioned body shows more of an interest and understanding of total-body health… and less an interest in “big guns” or just the 6-pack… I want to know the man can protect me, turn heads (which makes the ladies jealous of ME!!) and still has time in the day to pay attention to me, not just his workout and protein!

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  89. lol. Youth in action. Why are there so many different kinds of cars? Why are there so many different style homes? Different people have different preferences and it’s always going to be that way. I’;m an ecto and I’ll nev er look like a buffed out endo and that’s OK. Some peole like the lok of guys who look like they’re pumped up with a tire pump and some don’t, and that’s OK. There’s no “one size fits all” and never will be. Pick the look that’s right for you! Be who you truly are on the outside as well as the inside and you’ll attract the people that that are attracted to you. Honesty, integrity, & sinicerity in body mind and soul. No one’s for everyone but everyone’s for someone

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  90. In Vince’s defense, he didn’t say that muscles are only thing needed for attraction, just that they are very important for creating PHYSICAL Attraction. In an ideal world, guys wouldn’t train for girls, bu this is not ideal world, far from it… it is a big motivation to train for girls even if a guy loves workouts themselves – it’s human nature to want to reproduce!
    Cheers

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  91. Haha its so ironic that my girlfriends and I were just discussing this today, and then I got Vince’s email. Oh btw, I’m female…

    We all agreed that it is absolutely revolting when we see guys with huge-ass arms and legs like chickens. The worst part is that they think they look good! AND they think that training your upper body is the only way to train. Worse still, upperbody means chest and biceps. Ugh. And unfortunately, it seems like most of the average male population has such a disgusting mindset. So our conclusion is, an athletic body that is well-proportioned, well-developed EVERYWHERE is the best, just like almost every girl has commented so far.

    As for favorite body part…? Everybody differed on that one. I like a good strong back butt and hams. Cause then I know he knows how to train. My friends like abs, forearms, and yup legs. Surprisingly, NO ONE said arms! Haha. This means that most guys are quite disillusioned.

    But of course, it all boils down to whether the guy is a complete dickhead. And sorry Vince, but I don’t think that picking up girls only has to do with adding some muscle onto your frame or buffing up. Yeah it helps to look good, but you make it sound so superficial. I’m positive your girlfriend likes you for something more than how ripped you are… I hope…?

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  92. The women i have come across basically like the lean muscular, hungry wolf look.slight muscles like that of a swimmer are a plus. but a body builders phys(meaning muscle bound, lats flared and a walk like having boils under ur bollocks is a way , way turn off.).
    Me i prefer my muscles big and strong and functional. ( not just showy muscles).
    all the best
    Syrus M.

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  93. Wow Vince, you’re really coming off insecure here man. I know a lot of guys work out to attract girls but come on !! Are you serious about attracting most women, if so, why? For your own self-esteem or to piss off every other guy in the room. If that’s your aim guys, throw in some self defence lessons while you’re at it. Oh yeah, nearly every girl I know loves Brad Pitt’s look in Fight Club, but it’s a combination of a very lean, athletic, “fighters” body and loads of confidence. If you nail these two, you’re set.

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  94. The biggest turn off for a man I would say is a girl with defined delts and big traps.

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  95. This is a response to Per. I think your girlfriend doesn’t want you to look like Vince for the soul reason you dont want a real fit girlfriend. If you strive to better yourself, likely reaction would be for her to do the same so you both can look HOT together ๐Ÿ™‚

    As for what women want in a male physique…..broad toned shoulders, defined arms and a nice toned back…yummy. I have to agree with all these women who say a body like yours Vince!

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  96. Stop working out for a while and add some fat, then yor veins should go away. Not too much fat though.@john

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  97. As a female, the male body that appeals to me most is being symmetrical, atheletic, dense and a good amount of muscle mass…not necessarily the most amount of muscle mass as in Olympian contestants. Thus, I do like guys who body build and look like one but not walking with the “oh my lats are too wide look” that both bulging biceps can’t seem to close in on their back! That’s really so unnatural even if the guy is really “huge”..it just goes to show how “inflexible” his body is and imply his “ego” is really too big for his lats! Such guys would have size, muscle details and vascularity without looking “freakish”. Names that comes to my mind are: Vince Delmonte, Tom Venuto, Lee Labrada, Lee Hayward just to name a few.:)

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  98. I agree with the comment earlier that big upper body and spindly legs looks ridiculous. Just as silly is all pecs and biceps, and “no” lats or triceps ๐Ÿ™‚ balance guys! Look like you know what you’re doing!

    I don’t really have a favourite as far as individual body parts – it’s more about the overall balance. However, don’t think a great look will get you off the hook as far as conversation and charm and manners ๐Ÿ˜‰

    The juiced bodybuilders’ look is gross, they look more like freak-show artists than anything else – and to me they ARE freaks. However, a ripped, natural bodybuilder (like Vince, Tom Venuto, Jon Benson and others) now there’s a look for ya ๐Ÿ™‚

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  99. @Jennifer – Same in reverse, big female bodybuilders. Of course there will be plenty that like them, but the Miss Fitness models or swimsuit models are what men prefer. Either athletic, or curvy in all the right places. I see a trend now with all the soda drinks and carbs that “pooch” or “muffin-top” look with tight clothing…gross.

    Perfection? Salma Hayek in the movie “Desperado”! To me, it just doesn’t get much better than that! For me, a nice butt, healthy long hair, beautiful eyes, and a proportional breast size. Really, enough with the giant fake breasts already! LOL

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  100. Hehe.. no offense, and it’s not personal Vince, but when my girlfriend saw your picture on the cover of the DVD-package that I bought from you this spring, she immediately said “Well I don’t want you turning out like that”.

    That being said, I guess that’s my goal, but I will acctually be very happy if I make it 3/4th of the way to that kind of physique. My dream body would be somewhere along yours and/or Mr Reynolds that someone linked to previously, and my guess would have been that those are the kinds of bodies a lot of women would like there boyfriend/husband to have.

    And speaking of Ryan Reynolds, if I can have a wife that looks like Sandra Bullock in “The Proposal” when she’s 45, I’d be a happy man too… ;O)

    For someone who asked about what guys like, I would say she is a 10 in my opinion.

    As some also mentioned, it of course has a lot to do with personal taste. But a question, could the current state of the own body also have effect on what we prefer in a partner? For instance, if I was very unfit, I would probably not want to be with an extremely fit girl since that would probably give me a bad concious about my own condition. As well as if I get in super-shape, I would probably want for my partner to do the same, feeling I deserved some one good looking too.

    Any opinions?

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  101. HEY people sometimes you already have the results but you don’t realize sometimes like in my country girls are to conservative or they have an existencial crisis that they don’t speak or look in direct way, but if you open your eyes and ears you will learn for yourself I use a 70-80% good diet trian 2 times a week most of the time using Vince’s workouts I sued for years bodybuilding magazine’s workouts without results and proper legs a lot of deadlifts and old school workouts + diet give me all the package plus a better disposition and better looking face eyes and hair many girls asked me what cosmetics I use:D
    the beneficts from diet are greeeeaaaaat now I can even post a photo without being acused of stolen it from google, and it’s creepy to go the beach turn your neck and find that there some girl wacthing over you ๐Ÿ˜€ but my bet is that some folks after so many effort would apreciate it ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I would recomend Vince’s product to anyone

    GIRLS FOR YOUR EYES although every girl has a proper checklist with charming prince my guess is the perfect body is of CRISTIANO RONALDO a portuguese football player who face’s looks like **** his clothes yuck but his body looks from sculpture I think he is the reference for any guy in the world in terms of body

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  102. Oh yeah, chicks dig muscles. But not Ronnie Coleman type. They love muscle like we love —-! Most importantly though, guys shouldn’t forget building up legs and back (that V-Shape is magically attractive to girls!).

    Cheers

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  103. This is an interesting post from Vince, but I have to say I think if you try to set your training goals by “what women want” you’re going to drive yourself utterly, utterly mad. For a start as you can see from the above comments there is no gold standard that all women want, and secondly I just don’t think its a tangible goal. I mean to put on decent amount of muscle you’re probably going to lose sight of your abs for a bit- but women love abs right? So you lose the confidence to keep bulking, and begin to sabotage yourself to get your hawt abz back. And the big bulky muscle thing is a total misnomer, you have to be genetically gifted or on gear to get “too big”.

    Vince your NNMB is awesome and I am loving using it and getting awesome results, but for me this is a gateway to self improvement and eventually natural bodybuilding competition. Aspiring to a tangible standard gives me the motivation to bust my ass everyday, rather than worrying about what each individual pretty lady thinks I should look like!

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  104. If u build too much muscle , ull be like a monster to a woman . if u dont build muscle n become skinny , it won’t appeal to a woman either because she wants the sense of security . thus i suggest building the right amount of muscle n just be yourself .

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  105. Again, I’m gonna highlight how important proportion is-pleeeaaassseee dont forget the legs guys! And don’t go tooo big up top! Athletic looking is definately the way to go! Oh and when you do reach perfection, don’t continually check yourself out in the gym mirrors! Theres a trainer at my gym who focuses more on himself and flexing rather than correcting his clients technique! Not attractive-just off putting!

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  106. nice post vince, this is the first time I’ve read all comments. Very entertaining…
    It came as a (pleasant) surprise that many woman like balanced, athletic bodies and that they even pay that much attention to the physique.
    As for me I like the exact same thing in a woman: an athletic, well proportionned body like Jessica Biel. She trained together with Ryan Reynolds, I’d like to get my hands on their program … VINCE TO THE RESCUE??

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  107. I’ve met plenty of girls who say they don’t like a muscly bloke some girls like to be domineering and would prefer a skinny weed. It’s just all of us on this page are into body building so were assuming that’s what women like it’s not. I would say the greater percentage would like someone bigger but the world would be a pretty boring place if we were all the same would it not?

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  108. Question for all the ladies, what is the ideal weight and height??
    I asked a few girls and they said : 5’11”-6’3”, 185-210 pounds, with honesty personality, brains a little bit of an ego, but not too much:P

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  109. I must admit I never began working out to build insane amounts if muscle. The look I was going for was more of an Hollywood
    or fitness model rather than one of a bodybuilder. To me no matter what look the females prefer be it the more muscle or a little less, whichever situation I feel I look the best in that’s what I’ll aim for. Like you said some girls prefer you when you look bigger while others when you were not as big, so there’s no winning either way, though at the same time it’s a good predicament your in. As long as you’re not skinny or at a high body fat and it’s obvious that you work out and take care of yourself no matter what size tour goal then it’s all good. I’m glad that you said that it’s never good to be content because up until now I was always thinking that I’d get to a point then I’ll just try to stay there. What I just realised now is that if I do that then I will begin to get lazy as there is no goal that I am aiming for.

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  110. I’m with Jennifer on that one : well-balanced upper and lower body. Most guys I know focus on their upper body and they do have gorgeous shoulders, ripped and strong arms and a sexy 6 pack but with the skinny legs and soft butt all that is not so appealing.
    Anyways, a great fit, toned body might catch a girl’s eye but it doens’t make it all. I’d always prefer the funny, sensitive and charming guy, even if he’s skinny over a guy who has a great body but nothing else going for him.

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  111. Steroid women are scary! The athletic women above is super buff, but could be intimidating to guys that dont work out as hard! Like the girls I think most guys appreciate a toned women.

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  112. i want to hav a lean cut body. i don’t realy like the big and bulky body. with girls i reackon it differs from girl to girl. lol but thats my oppion:)

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  113. Have to agree that most the girls like the athletic muscular look but having a build naturally made for ‘rugby’ i find working out doesnt make me look like Ryan Reynolds but more like a bigger ‘rugby’ player!-

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  114. I like the athletic build โ€“ fit, strong with a well-balanced upper and lower body. Iโ€™m definitely don’t find guys with a buff upper body and teeny chicken legs attractive. Athletes Iโ€™ve always admired include swimmers, rowers and AFL (Aussie rules football) players. A guy whoโ€™s lean with beautiful shoulders will always catch my eye as will ripped hammies although theyโ€™re not something I see too often.

    Now a question for you guysโ€ฆat what point (if there is a point) do you find fit women unattractive and how big is too big?

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  115. Well actually a new program recently came out and it’s all about this perfect measurement ratio which women find most attractive, this ratio can be found in nature as well plus the old greeks used it to build temples and people like Leonardo da Vinci, Michealangelo and so on…adonis index I think it’s called…but one thing still stands, even if you do have this perfect ratio, what good is it if YOU’RE not happy with it? ๐Ÿ™‚

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  116. ^^^ Also as said above many times, no one wants to see your scrawny weakass chicken legs no matter what. Unfortunately the guido workout has become very popular, and you will see guys with impressive upper builds wobbling around on skinny atrophied legs. Don’t let that be you.

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  117. umm ok i have a little problem….. umm anyone know how i can get rid of my bulgy and veiny muscles? its actually kind of too big… i gross people out :/

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  118. I would have to say…a man with muscular, defined, sexy legs, absolutely gets my attention. unfortunately that is one of the body parts most of them neglect.

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  119. Another attempt at bridging the gap between the seduction community and bodybuilding industry.

    Anyone of us can hook up with the hottest chix in the room with the right body laguage/inner confidence and social skills/charm. Cuz looks actually don’t matter as much to wimminz as they do to us.

    That said, you wont turn into a StudPimpPUA just by getting buff.
    I think the most valuable reward from bodybuilding is the increased natural confidence you get from your added strength and size. Its this feeling you get from it, more than the actual appearance of your physique that makes girls wanna holla at buffstudz. But if u can’t [Attract]+[Build Comfort]+[Seduce] now don’t expect to be able to just by building.

    Enough muscle to make you strong and powerful is key. You don’t want girls to feel your skeleton or your belly when you hug them, you want them to feel an awesome fit slab of man. The more the better, but the minimum amount of muscle to be attractive to the most chix at first glance is the amount that makes the difference between the weak and the strong. You wanna look like youre active, healthy and can fend for yourself in the world.

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  120. TONED!!!! NOT BUFF!!!! ****Guys, don’t neglect the calves! Personally my weakness…to see a guy walking in front of me with board shorts/cargo shorts and seeing a nice pair of…well, ummm…CALVES!! ๐Ÿ™‚ I get so many strange looks questioning me “Calves is the best body part on a guy??!!”. Strange as it seems, but hey some guys prefer a nice pair of legs over breasts and/or a nice toosh on a female so why can’t woman like the same? Also, another strange body part I like and seems to be neglected are forearms. I like the veiny look of forearms for some reason…not like “The Hulk” but just the right “athletic” look of forearms. Personal pet peeve of mine is seeing guys wearing those tight Under Armor type of shirts. If I see guys wearing those I automatically assume he is a gym rat and lives in one so I would never give a guy a chance if he approached me.

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  121. I find the swimmer’s physique to be the most appealing. They’re muscular without being too big. I like broad shoulders with a nice waistline. One of my favorite muscle groups is the back. Although, the eyes and smile are really what attracts me to a man. They show his true character.

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  122. I’m attracted to a body with a good head on its shoulders, and a guy who has more to think about than his appearance.
    Not to say I go for slobs, but honestly, if you’re spending as much time wondering what to do to attract women as this post and your past posts indicate, no wonder you have a hard time noticing who’s even there!

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  123. Would anybody say that Brad Pitt inFight Club or even Troy has the perfect body? If not then who has the perfect body?

    http://mwgmedia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fightclub.jpg

    http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/city/try0245.jpg

    in a girl I’d say that their legs would be the most important part, other than their face of course. Beyonce in her Put A Ring On It music video has a near perfect body.

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  124. Ideally, good proportions, a firm butt and muscular legs. Personally I like guys who look after their bodies – it shows they have self esteem and I like the look of martial artists (like Bruce lee) best but ultimately guys, girls like guys who are kind, confident, loving and funny and who AREN’T obsessed with their pecs, glutes, lats, delts or whatever. It’s bad enough that some girls are always preening and checking out their hair and make-up every time they pass a mirror; it’s a total turn-off when guys do it. Self absorbed guys, no matter how cute or ripped, are not attractive. A guy with a great personality, even a little skinny, or has more than a wee bit of fat, gets my vote! Maybe that’s why Vince, you’ve had girls tell you you were perfect, whatever size you were!

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  125. I AM A 22 YEAR OLD FEMALE, AND I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT ATTRACETS ME IN A MAN IS THE FACT THAT HE’S WILLINIG TO GIVE HIS MAX EFFORT IN ANYTHING HE DOES, MEENING – I WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THE GUY WITH THE MOST MUSCLE THAT HE CAN GAIN WITH OUT USEING DRUGS, I HAVE LOTS OF APRTIATION FOR PEOPLE WHO PUSH THEMSELVES TO ACHIVE THERE FULL POTENTIAL AND THAT IS WHAT ATTRACTES ME IN A MAN HIS INNER POUWR AS WELL AS HIS PHYSICAL POWER….. ( :

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  126. Vice versa

    What i find attractive in a women ,just like everyother guy would is a toned out body with (not a MASSIVE chest) but a shaped up perky one, but more importantly the facial features,, nice sexy lucious lips and beautiful eyes

    Those are the big things i look for in a girls (looks)

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  127. Well vince i think your post is a interesting topic, but id like to think that it all depends on the womens taste, ive dated women at 280 12%bf and they thought i looked great then again ive dated some women at 290 and 9%bf and they thought i was just 2 big, which is kinda disappointing after all i dont get much smaller then 280,but I am currently happy with my physique and so are many other women,but from my experience women dont seem to like huge puffed up mustle heads, i honestly think theyre more into toned out and lean guys from what ive heard,

    BIG R

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  128. I like skinny guys. And I particularly dislike guys with skinny legs and massive arms and chests. Big biceps at the pub are a big turn off for me. And arrogance is the biggest turn off of all.

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  129. core strength including abs and lower back are the foundation. at least some definition of the mid-section along with an overall “lean and fit” look are appropriate. while pecs and arms are most visible, it is very important to train the legs and back.

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  130. Hi there, I’m female and honestly, I find a muscular guy far more attractive than a skinnish guy.

    Excample… although Heath Ledger was absolutely gorgeous, I’d prefer Vin Diesel or Jason Stratham… Heath was a bit on the skinny side.

    The hottest guys are the likes of yourself Mr. Delmonte (OMG, a bod to die for), Craig Ballantyne and off course Tom Venuto!! Not just perfect bodies but also facial features that can knock any girl off her feet!

    Would be great Vince if we can also have some feedback from the guys as to what they find attractive!

    Cheers!

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  131. Hi, as a female I have to agree with Tan from Australia, she hit the nail on the head. Nice arms and abs are key but don’t neglect your lower bodies guys. So many guys I know train chest and arms and have pins for legs. Too big is also not attractive to me. I never want to weigh more than my partner, and he should be able to pick me up too! At 6’1 this is sometimes challenging!
    Great post ๐Ÿ™‚

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  132. I think its all about balance. I like a guy who looks like he works out but he is not skinny and not too big either. I like muscle definition with a taut stomach but not too much of a six pack because I reckon the more muscular a guy is the more into himself he may be even if this isn’t the case. You want to look strong and athletic without taking it too far!! After all we don’t want our men in the gym working out for hours on end either!

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  133. I love a nice bubble butt, AND being able to see that trail from the top of the hips that follows your leg line DOWN. Raawrrr. I suppose that comes with defined abs and or a lower percentage of body fat.
    One thing that I have noticed when a man does go the distance, and put on that much muscle and definition is that he sometimes seems to require praise on a ‘broader’ scale. Yes I mean more women – haa. I want you to be proud of your body and I will definately show my appreciation, but when big head gets too big it stops being funny.
    Yes to proportional physiques. I have to look away from the underdeloped leg guys, sorry, but its just soo wrong, and seeminly obvious.
    My current guy is perfect to me right now, at 6′ 2″ and maybe 10 extra pounds. He works hard so has a hard body under it, and that works for me.
    Thanks, that was fun.

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  134. Lean, cut, & evenly proportioned! Definitely athletic, now that is what looks good.

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  135. Girl here. Thanks for the newsletter.

    Personally, I wouldn’t like a man with big chest and biceps but has chicken legs. Proportion is important! Muscular looking is good but not too much. I like Hugh Jackman’s physique but not what he looked like in the movie Wolverine! That was too much.

    A chest, NO beer belly and some biceps is enough in my book. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  136. Also, be sure to check your attitude at the door. Want to turn women off, be a macho jerk and see what kind of women you attract. Play a little “hard to get” but not too hard to get. Women are turned on by the brain, so use yours to get the women of your dreams. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  137. Okay guys, I asked my wife and she is very honest about this kind of stuff.

    “She likes a man’s butt, neck (long and slender, but not skinny), nice eyes and strong shoulders, but not too muscular. Fit and healthy like mentioned above. A 6 pack is a plus, but a guy with loyalty, generosity, compassionate, nurturing, and a good sense of humor. That will not only get you dates, it will get you married in a heart beat!”

    Yeah, some women will hint around about what they want, but that is what they really want, and if you have a nice body, you will get their attention at first, then the second list has to be there to get the second date and so on. Want women to fight over you, and I mean quality women? Then you need to be the total package. BTW, generosity means you have some money in the bank boys! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  138. There is such a thing as TOO BIG. When a guy looks like he was taking steroids and every vein in his body is popping out, and coming to get you — not so attractive. However I don’t find skinny guys attractive either because they do seem quite feminine in my eyes (though I do know few women who just love that look). I would have to agree with the girls… Muscles are great, but not in a massive way.

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  139. Good post Vince!
    I started the 6 pack workouts like a week ago and I do see slightlty improvment i will keep doing it till i hit my goal!

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  140. Most of the girls like lean, toned athletic kind of guys with right attitude and smartness. Very few girls like big bulky body.Girls mostly like tall guys with broad shoulders.

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  141. I asked my very fit girlfriend what she thought, and what she told me was that she, just like the girls above, likes a strong muscular and tone body, but not too much.

    She took it a step further and made the comparison to Ryan Reynolds having the “perfect body” via this picture: http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/45/54/ryan_reynolds.0.0.0×0.420×619.jpeg

    So I think Vince has it right, an extra 20-30 pounds is the way to go.

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  142. Hey Vince,
    Love your emails, great information, advice & lots of fun!!
    OK, here’s what we Aussie girls from down under like!!!
    First, buff guys are HOT!!!!! Now, we’re not talking pro. bodybuilder types, (although I do love looking at them!) Men who are really big are no good to us women. They’re too big to have around, and are really not that attractive to the majority of women. (Sorry guys, but true!). Now, a man who has muscles mass that’s defined, athletic & toned is a total turn on!! Big chests & six packs make women go weak at the knees. Beautiful bulging biceps are sweet too, men have to have great looking arms. Backs are not that important, but somthing sculptured is really good!!! One thing that is a real turn off is a big upper body & skinny scrawny legs – like boxers. Defined quads. are hard to resist. Guys must be well proportioned on both the upper & lower body. I must admit I’m a gluteous maximus fan & I do love a rounded butt! Nice and hard after all those squats & lunges. Yes, the hot looking man is exactly that – kinda what you look like Vince, (sorry Vince’s girlfriend!!!). Anyway, I hope that helps a bit for all those guys out there who are confused. Don’t get too big, we don’t like that. Oh, & what us Aussie girls like too is a buff hot looking man with a TAN!!! Love going to the beach & checking out the guys with rock hard bodies & a tan – lily white is not cool !!!! OK Vince, I have to go now & have a cold shower!!! Keep up the good work, love your stuff!!
    Tan

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  143. BINGO!

    Originally Posted By DanielleGirls dont like big big guys! And when a guy is that big, it starts to make you think that they would prefer to work on their bodies than hang out with you!!

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  144. Darlene, I have to jump in there and say I agree, but hey I am biased I played beach volleyball on the tour here in Australia.

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  145. I’m one to know that looks do mean quite a bit to girls.
    Being a student in highschool that can basically fit into any groups I want to allows me to see what girls want. And all the girls close to me have always said
    “Personality And looks” are what are most important to them in a guy.

    So shape up and be nice and your all good ๐Ÿ˜›

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  146. though its important to have athletic bodytype one must not forget to have big bulging under your pant coz that’s what make you sexy, macho macho man.

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  147. @Danielle
    Beach volleyball players are beautiful! Both they’re upper and lower bodies are proportionately muscular.

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  148. Hey I am female ๐Ÿ™‚ If any guy out there wants to get ripped believe me you will turn all the females heads if you have a rock solid bod! Girls love it but dont go to big and muscular, that scares us off. Like the other female said above, muscular but not massive and more athletic type of bod but not skinny, also dont work your chest to much and forget your lower half cause thats not cool. Work on your abs, most girls would love their man to have a six pack and if you have a six pack watch out cause the girls will fight for ya. To give you my opinion if I see I guy with a hot body I turn to my friends and say holy SH*T did you see that guy? usually they reply with OMG i know right? haha thats really the number 1 way to get the ladies…
    Anyway Vince Delmonte rocks! haha his bod is hott! ๐Ÿ™‚
    Peace!

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  149. Bears out what I hear from women anecdotally. Interesting comment about the top-heavy guys with skinny legs – points to what I’ve always thiught, for both sexes, it’s all about pleasing proportions, rather than having one part huge and ignoring others. On an somewhat unrelated note, who is that stunning lady with the pole in the pic at the top of the article? Now she has excellent proportions.

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  150. I competed in one figure competition myself, so I can appreciate the work and discipline required to get a bodybuilder physique. However, appreciation does not equal attraction. It may be a cruel stereotype but most women I know assume that the increase in muscle mass past a certain point, is directly proportionate to a reduction in active brain cells. Guys, you’re attractive when you look hard, strong, healthy and can make conversation about something other than working out.

    Favorite body part? If by favorite you mean, what grabs our attention for a second look? Well … on the beach, abs… in a bar, biceps.

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  151. Id say back witdh is important
    nothing else matterzs

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  152. This is a very interesting article Vince. I really think that every womans preference is slightly different as well. For example, my wife’s favorite parts are the chest and CALVES!! I found that rather strange the first time she told me that. I’ll see if I can get her to comment.

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  153. this is a good post vince hopefully the ladies will leave some comments ๐Ÿ™‚

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  154. Come on girls , help us!!!

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  155. And another important question is: what is a woman’s favorite body-part on a man? (No snickering!) I’m sure it varies from woman-to-woman, but it would be interesting to know how the majority of women would answer that question.

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  156. Im a female trainer so Ill give my two cents.
    I see some guys in the gym that are a tad too big up top but nothing on the bottom, they have small legs, they are only obsessed with their arms and chests.

    I like guys that look like athletes, fit and muscular. Great body types are sprinters, basketballers etc not too big, just fit strong and healthy.

    Girls dont like big big guys! And when a guy is that big, it starts to make you think that they would prefer to work on their bodies than hang out with you!!

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  157. Rob, great idea, when I send this newsletter out I’ll ask the females to jump in. I know every guy reading would LOVE to hear from our lady friends – especially on this topic.

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  158. I’m a female so I’ll jump in here. ๐Ÿ™‚ This is a great post and very true. There is a line when it becomes too much – professional bodybuilders, in my mind, take it too far, and the vast majority of the females I’ve talked to pretty much say the same thing. When you’re really large and extremely vainy, I don’t think as many girls will find that attractive. But 20-30 pounds of muscle added with a hint of vascularity, will make a huge difference. Could take you from a 7 to a 10. Without a doubt. A few women will not care about physique, but they are far and few in between. Just as I’m sure most guys will appreciate a girl who keeps herself in good shape as well.

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  159. Vince, good article. Wouldn’t it be great if a heap of women just came here and left comments so that us males are not guessing.

    Talking about the big bulky muscle guys I have never heard a girl say they look good so I would say your figure of about 20-30 lbs of extra muscle would be on the money for what women want.

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  160. Nice one Vince. I like this post, I’m going on a vacation soon, then I’ll start your program at a gym and see the results, already have a six pack ๐Ÿ˜€

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